Posted by K on May 21, 2003 at 20:28:17:
In Reply to: Euphonium couesnon (3+1) posted by michel Thivierge on May 21, 2003 at 17:11:04:
Speaking about French instruments in any other language than French is a bit tricky, because nobody can be sure exactly which instrument is meant.
I know of one French maker, who makes 3+1 euphoniums in compensated and non-compensated versions: Courtois.
Evaluating an instrument, which one has not seen or tried, is next to impossible.
My formula for buying used instruments is this one:
Buying price (including shipping and fees/duty/whatever-extra = Expected playing value - Price of necessary repairs
A formula, which opens up for the very frequent option of a negative buying price, which always leads to a no-buy situation.
For comparisson purposes I add links to the Saxhorn basses en Si bemol in my gallery groups:
Thumbnails of a 1917 Besson Prototype model small euphonium in the style of
a French Saxhorn basse:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosx/lst?&.dir=/1917
+Besson-Prototype+Saxhorn+basse-euph
Thumbnails of an F. Besson Saxhorn basse 1890 3+1P:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosxiv/lst?&.dir=/F.
+BESSON+Saxhorn+basse+1890+3%2b1P
Thumbnail of an F. Besson, Paris, Systeme Prototype Saxhorn basse:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosx/vwp?.dir=/&.dnm
=F.+Besson+Bb+Saxhorn+basse.jpg
Thumbnails of a Cauwelaert Saxhorn basse en Si bemol 3+1 pistons:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosxiv/lst?&.dir=/CA
UWELAERT+Saxhorn+basse+3%2b1+Bb
Thumbnails of an older Couesnon Saxhorn basse in C and Bb with 3+1 piston:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosxi/lst?.dir=/Coue
snon+3%2b1+Saxhorn+in+C+and+Bb
Thumbnails of a Courtois saxhorn basse en Si-bemol 3P:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosxiv/lst?.view=t&.
dir=/Courtois+Saxhorn+basse+en+Si-bemol+3P
Thumbnails of a Hirsbrunner 3 piston French style Saxhorn (Saxhorn basse en
Si bemol):
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosix/lst?.dir=/Hirs
brunner+3P+French+style+Bb+Saxhorn
Thumbnails of two KEEFER Bb saxhorns basse with 3 pistons:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosxvii/lst?&.dir=/1
910+KEEFER+Bb+saxhorn+basse+3+pistons
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosxvii/lst?&.dir=/K
EEFER+saxhorn+basse+en+Si+bemol++3P
Thumbnails of a circa 1915 King baritone in the French Saxhorn style 3
over-the-top-bow pistons:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosxiv/lst?.view=t&.
dir=/King+circa+1915+saxhorn+type+baritone+3P
Thumbnails of a Mahillon Saxhorn basse en Si bemol 3+1:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosxiv/lst?&.dir=/Ma
hillon+Saxhorn+basse+en+Si+bemol+3%2b1
Thumbnail(-s) of a Mastertone Besson SWL Bb Saxhorn Baryton:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosxiv/vwp?.dir=/&.d
nm=Mastertone+Besson+BbSaxhorn.jpg&.src=gr&.view=t&.hires=t
Thumbnails of a Michaud saxhorn basse en Si bemol (euphonium):
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosx/lst?&.dir=/Mich
aud+saxhorn+basse+-+euphonium
Thumbnails of a Millereau Saxhorn bass en Si bemol with 3+1 pistons:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosxvii/lst?&.dir=/M
illereau+Saxhorn+basse+en+Si+bemol+3%2b1
Thumbnails of a Pélisson of Lyon saxhorn baryton en Si bemol:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosxii/lst?.dir=/Pel
isson+Saxhorn+baryton+en+Si+bemol
Thumbnails of a de Prins, Antwerpen, Belgium, 3+2 piston Saxhorn basse en Si
bemol:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosiii/lst?.dir=/de+
Prins++-+Belgium+-+5+piston+Saxhorn
Thumbnails of a J. B. Steemans (Brussels, Belgium) 3+1 pistons Bb saxhorn
basse:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosx/lst?.dir=/J.+B.
+Steemans+3%2b1+Bb+Saxhorn+basse
Thumbnail of a Thibouville-Lamy Bb Saxhorn basse with 3+1 pistons:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosxv/lst?&.dir=/THI
BOUVILLE-LAMY+Saxhorn+basse+Bb+3%2b1P
Thumbnails of two York baritones/Saxhorns in Bb with 3 over-the-top-bow
pistons:
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosxiv/lst?.view=t&.
dir=/York+baritone+-+Saxhorn+in+Bb+3P
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/yorkmasterpublicphotosxv/lst?.dir=/JW+Y
ork+-Saxhorn+Baryton-+3P+circa+1908
Klaus Bjerre
Retired teacher
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